And attorney
"I think it's outrageous," said state Sen.
"This is something that causes the public to lose faith in the
If text messages exchanged by high-ranking police officials can all be "scrubbed clean," then "all kinds of mischief can go on, and the public is never going to know about it."
It's a controversy in which new and inexpensive technology designed to ensure user privacy is colliding with the public's right to scrutinize government communications. Democratic Gov.
Signal, which is a free-to-the-user app funded by grants and donations, says on its website: "We can't read your messages or listen to your calls, and no one else can either." Signal features "end-to-end" encryption, meaning texts sent on state phones using Signal bypass the state server and, once deleted, leave no record on either the phone or the state server.
Though state employee use of the Signal app came to light through a lawsuit against the MSP, there is no way of knowing whether employees in other state agencies are also using it. The state has made no effort since the
Though "we are reviewing our policies ... we do not block the download of apps right now," Buhs said. "As of right now, I don't have an answer for you as to what is legitimate use. We just don't know what other agencies need all the time. (The MSP's) legitimate use may not be the same for another agency."
Fett is suing the MSP and its director, Col.
Fett, of
Through the court, Fett asked the MSP to admit that Gasper, MSP records section manager
The state initially admitted all seven officials had used such an app on their state phones, but in an amended response
The requests and responses did not name the encryption application, but Hahn said he knows top MSP officials have been using Signal.
Fett said that when someone downloads the Signal application on to a cellphone, there is an immediate request for access to the person’s contact list. If access is granted, Signal generates a list of contacts who also have the Signal app installed. He said the names of 18 MSP officials popped up
In addition to Gasper, Hinkley, and the five officials the state has admitted have used the encryption app, the names of still-active MSP officials that appeared were: Lt. Col.
Fett, who provided copies of the screenshots to the
On Monday, Banner again denied that Gasper or Hinkley had downloaded or used the Signal app on their state phones. She did not comment on the other names put forward by Fett.
"For your background, I would note that the screenshots are based on the individual’s contact list in their phone," Banner said. "Therefore, it would only be as accurate as their contact list."
She otherwise declined to comment, citing the ongoing litigation.
Runestad said it is his understanding that protocols and technology are already in place for the MSP to use encryption when necessary for sensitive investigations, without bypassing the state server and potentially evading
"I'm on appropriations for the state police," he said. "I am going to be asking them a lot of questions about this. A lot of questions about their hiring and promoting practices. There's a lot that they're going to have to address in the next appropriations subcommittee hearing."
State Sen.
"I have concerns about any state agency, especially our top law enforcement agency in the state, circumventing the laws about open, transparent record-keeping," Barrett said.
The Democrat on the subcommittee, Sen.
"Are text messages on the record?" Hollier asked. "(Former Detroit Mayor)
The MSP has a right to communications that are protected from detection by those under investigation and the public also has a right to know about government business, Hollier said.
"If we want to hold people accountable, we have to put them in a position where they can be successful, and we have not done this," Hollier said. "We need to modernize our laws."
State Sen.
Moss said he can envision many circumstances — including recent armed demonstrations at the
That is OK "as long as those messages are subject to retention and disclosure" at a later date, he said.
Since technology is ever-evolving, state law and policy must be constantly refined to "make sure someone can't go around
Attorney General
A spokeswoman for Whitmer, who was initially a defendant in the MSP lawsuits brought by Fett but was dismissed from the cases in August, did not respond to a request for comment.
"This is the kind of stuff that the governor ought to be ripping the can wide open and looking inside and saying, 'How did this happen. Why is this happening? Let's not have this lack of transparency,' " Runestad said.
"Unless you can tell me different, I haven't heard anything out of her."
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